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Special Episode! Run Army with Jake Ellwood
12.03.2026, 04:32
In this very special episode, we are joined by Jake Ellwood - retired Australian Army Major General, marathon runner and Unforgiving60 alumni - to talk all things Run Army! As president of Run Army and the driving force behind the event since its inception, Jake knows a thing or two about the race and the wider concept behind it, but we don't just talk Run Army. Jake also shares some of his thoughts on resilience and motivation, coming back from injury and wider leadership considerations in this fascinating and wide-ranging chat.
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Reviving S2E17 – On Parenting with Steve Biddulph, AM
23.01.2026, 00:30
Steve Biddulph is one of the world’s best-known parent educators. Steve has been a psychologist for 30 years and his books have sold over four million copies as well as having been translated into 31 languages.
Ben and Tim talk with Steve about their own transformations after reading his books and talk the differences between raising boys and raising girls.
As well as plenty of good old-fashioned hugging. It’s alright to be affectionate peeps!
Listen in then try a few of Steve’s practical techniques.
Intelligence Summary (INTSUM)
04:50 Steve talks about how and why he got into psychology…. You’ll be surprised.
08:30 Initial interest in the psychology of men and boys and family therapy (at age 24). And watching Dad’s struggling to parent.
11:33 Raising Boys - the End Product. What makes a good man?
14:45 Tim tells his story about how Steve’s book changed his relationships.
20:30 Tim keeps talking about hugging blokes.
21:30 Steve talks about a generation that is ‘thawing out’.
26:30 How different is this generation of children?
30:45 On traumatic stress and cumulation. Advice for parents.
31:00 The importance of rest and restoration as a family.
33:33 On mothers and sons (and Celia Lashlie’s work and book) … and that book is here .
38:45 Boys start off in Mum’s world … and then re-orientates.
41:00 About mentors for boys and building a bundle of masculinity.
45:50 Raising Girls- What’s the difference?
47:30 Girls sensitivity to social cues… and what the advertisers know and how they exploit it.
49:22 Steve on why the world is mistreating girls.
50:30 Feminism and all its gains are in jeopardy. Social media, mirrors, internet and TV.
52:00 Hyenas are stalking our girls.
52:45 Pornography and kids.
58:00 How can we parent more resilient kids?
1:00:00 What about corporal punishment?
1:03:15 Modern boundaries.
1:04:25 Closing words of advice of things to do with our sons and daughters. Changing the dynamic.
External Links
Music
By Mitchell Martin … 'Beautiful' and 'Be Myself' ... Available on Spotify
Revival of S2E1- SAS Tactics to Fight the Apocalypse - with Mick Neven from the Apocalypse Comedy Podcast
22.01.2026, 05:55
It's the year 2100. How would SAS inspired tactics fight the Zombie Apocalypse? Mick Neven is 120 years old but still a comedic legend. He loves a good apocalypse and has a comedy show to prove it!
Zombies are descending. What's YOUR life choice!?!?
Intelligence Summary (INTSUM)
- 0:30. The Situation in the year 2100
- 5:05. Welcome Mick Neven – Genius Mind & 'What do you have'?
- 7:20. When running from the tiger when do you rest?
- 8:30. From your childhood what do you bring?
- 9:00. Ben and Tim’s biological relationship
- 09:30. Mark Wales .... from Survivor.... Sux!
- 12:20. Ben and Tim’s early story
- 14:00. Talking SAS Selection
- 20:15. Would you have ‘them’ in your workforce?
- 22:15. Why Mick is in elite company!
- 24:25. How Comedians are funny- from Mick (not Ben and Tim!).
- 31:00. Australian v UK Comedy demand.
- 42:00. Ben wants high tech stuff in the Zombie Apocalypse!
- 44:30. Plans and the Zombies! Mick is sceptical!
- 47:45. Mick’s skills are critical!!!!
- 52:00. Mick thinks Ben and Tim can’t unite anyone!
- 52:40. Cray fisherman
- 56:45. What skills do we need in the apocalypse?
- 58:00. Obstacle Planning
- 1:04:00 Park runners we need you!!!
- 1:05:30 Tim’s obstacle plan- “The Molasses Pit”
- 1:06:00 How to kill with combine harvesters.,
- 1:08:30 Tim takes a selfie on the edge of - “The Molasses Pit”. Doesn’t end well.
- 1:11:30 Designing a “The Molasses Pit”.
- 1:12:00 Farewells and pleasantries!
Music.
NEW Music from The Externals in this Episode.
Music from The Externals is available on Spotify.
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S5E17- Ashley Semmens: The Clearance Diver who is finning the English Channel
31.05.2025, 04:55
Ashley Semmens is a former Royal Australian Navy Clearance Diver who served for 18 years, specialising in explosive ordnance disposal. He has deployed multiple times, including to Afghanistan, and participated in Australia's military withdrawal in 2021. After surviving trauma from an IED attack, a sniper incident, and a horrific shark attack aftermath in Sydney Harbour, Ashley was medically discharged due to PTSD. Now, he's preparing to swim the English Channel — not just any swim, but on his back, using fins. It's a fundraising mission for the Navy Clearance Diver Trust and a deeply personal journey into fear, resilience, and purpose.
In this episode, Ash opens up about overcoming fear of the water, losing close mates, post-service mental health, and how he’s turning pain into a platform for support and recovery.
Key Moments00:00 – Ben and Tim intro the episode and Ash’s unique goal: finning across the English Channel
01:14 – Comparison to Sam Penny’s Channel swim (Season 1, Episode 27)
01:40 – Ash’s clearance diving background and fear of water after trauma
02:45 – Military and Afghanistan service; PTSD and recovery journey
04:00 – Ash joins the conversation, starts with early life and growing up in Adelaide
06:00 – Competitive swimming as a teen; early struggles and successes
07:45 – 2003: Racing against Grant Hackett at Nationals
09:18 – Backstroke vs freestyle debate; Ash’s short course gold medal (with caveats)
10:00 – Natural transition to the Navy from competitive sport
11:01 – Joining as a direct entry diver and diver vs boatswain's mate decision
12:01 – Clearance Diver selection process explained — 10 days of being wet, sandy, and psychologically tested
14:07 – What Ash learned about focus, fatigue, and resilience during selection
15:00 – 2009 shark attack incident: Ash explains what happened to Paul de Gelder
17:34 – Ash’s role in the aftermath: trauma from cleaning the boat, psychological impact
18:29 – Lingering fear of large bodies of water, even lakes
20:00 – Later incident at Jervis Bay: panic before dive leads to difficult team moment
21:12 – Realisation of responsibility and shame around not seeking help
22:30 – Stigma and lack of psychological support during service
23:45 – What clearance divers do: diving, EOD, underwater repair, and land-based ops
25:16 – How Ash ended up doing EOD work in Afghanistan despite being too junior
27:22 – Becoming the most junior sailor to deploy for combat operations in Afghanistan
28:46 – Motivation to deploy: “It’s like a footballer wanting to play a grand final”
29:00 – Getting targeted by an IED during deployment
31:30 About the Bushmaster
34:42 Pressure builds up
39:30 PTSD, cracks, symptoms and care
44:00 ‘More to live for’ – side story
49:10 Medical discharge… and there are no protective factors in the military uniform
51:00 Role identity fusion
54:30 Finning the channel- breaking it down
External Links
- Navy Clearance Diver Trust
- Paul de Gelder – Shark Attack Survivor & Advocate
- S1E27 – Sam Penny swims the English Channel
www.unforgiving60.com
Email: debrief@unforgiving60.com
Instagram & Twitter: @Unforgiving60
Music
With thanks to: The Externals – available on Spotify
S5E16 – Jade MacDonald Razvi: Freediving and ‘EH4AR’
31.10.2024, 04:10
Jade MacDonald Razvi is a prominent Australian free diver and occupational therapist. She holds the second deepest dive in Australian history and recently won a bronze medal at the Free Diving World Cup. On this episode we talk about Jade’s growing up and freediving- how it works and how she trains.
As well as EH4AR (‘everything happens for a reason').
00:40 Starts with Ben’s hijack!
04:15 Jade on her lineage and growing up.
07:15 Sign language demonstration for the podcast audience
11:45 Jade’s swimming background- swimming into life! And swim times. And injuries.
19:00 What is an OT?
23:58 What is freediving?
25:20 Mermaids and Merbutlers
30:05 How Jade got into freediving and explaining competitions
39:00 How Jade rains for freediving…. without deep water.
46:30 Professional freedivers- are they a thing?
48:45 Breaking records!
1:01:33 How does Jade get herself through profound discomfort?
1:04:20 Applying a mantra and meditation in her diving
1:10:15 Can you lose the edge?
1:12:15 What is Jade’s limit?
1:14:00 EH4AR… Jade explains
1:18:20 Book recommendations and audiobook
1:20:45 Jade’s Power song and country music
1:23:25 Underwater predators
External Links
Jade’s Insta
Martin McPhilimey episode is here
Contact Us
Email us at debrief@unforgiving60.com
Instagram, Twitter: @Unforgiving60
Music …. With thanks to:
The Externals – available on Spotify
Mitchell Martin - available on Spotify